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Article: 12510 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: OpenVMS/Windows scripts
Date: 6 Jun 2001 14:35:35 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <OBMb3rj7AHA.88@cpmsnbbsa09>,
cstranslations <cstranslations@email.msn.com> wrote:
: > : ... just received (well yesterday) and installed
: > : Kermit95 on a PC running Windows98. I haven't purchased the book yet...
: > :
: > It's in your Kermit 95 distribution as a PDF file.
:
: I'll have to go back and take another look. What I was looking at seemed to
: be an abbreviated version of the book (and I seem to remember seeing
: something some where indicating the book was rather "large" 700+ pages).
:
That's "Using C-Kermit" and it is indeed in Kermit 95 directory. If you
give the "manual" command at the K-95> prompt, or click on Help->Manual in
the Dialer, you get the Kermit 95 manual, which, very near the top, has an
Index to Reference Material, where the first item is a link to the "Using
C-Kermit" PDF file.
: > Yes, but it's always harder to make a connection TO Windows than FROM
: > Windows, because Windows, unlike VMS or UNIX, is not designed to accept
: > logins from outside. But it can be done.
: >
: > The first question is: What kind of connection are you making from VMS to
: > Windows? Direct serial, dialed, Telnet, ...?
:
: Telnet from the an alpha 4100 running OpenVMS 7.1-1H1 to a PC running
: Windows (I believe NT if/when I can get things into production - for
: testing/development from the alpha to my PC running Windows98).
:
Of course this would be more straightforward in the other direction (make
the connection from Windows to VMS, which is already set up to allow Telnet
users to come in, log in, and have a regular session). I'm sure you know
that Windows does not include a Telnet server (unless you have installed a
third-party one). Therefore you have two choices:
1. Tell Kermit 95 to wait for an incoming connection on a specific socket:
set host * 3000
and then tell C-Kermit on VMS to "telnet xxx 3000" (where xxx is the
hostname of the Windows PC); or:
2. Use Kermit 95 host mode:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95host.html
The next release of K95 will offer a third choice, in which K95 itself *is*
a Telnet server and shell combined, so incoming connections get the K-95>
prompt and can give all the file-management and transfer commands to it,
*almost* just like at the PC console.
- Frank